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Fitna: Anti-Koranic Freedom of Expression It Ain’t

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What to say about Fitna, the anti-Koran movie by far-rightist Dutch MP Gert Wilders who’s enjoying his spot in the limelight in these days?

First of all, the fact that it has had a difficult time getting published is not a serious matter of censorship and/or an attack on freedom of expression. Freedom of expression doesn’t mean playing up polemic for the sake of polemic: I’ll defend Rushdie’s right to write literature that some may find offensive, but I won’t waste a second to defend the author of Fitna or anybody that publishes something with the one and only intent of causing offense.

On the other hand it is simple historical truth that Christians and Jews have been able to prosper in Islamic states: the opposite, unfortunately, is much harder to argue (just think at the Armenian genocide, that follows the de-islamization of the Ottoman State).

The Qu’ran is quite explicit about this:

2,62: Those who believe (in the Qur’an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

5,69: Those who believe (in the Qur’an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

22,17: Those who believe (in the Qur’an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians, Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for Allah is witness of all things.

One should compare that for example to Roman Catholic exclusivity: at least until the Second Vatican Council, there was no path to Heaven to anyone that was not a RC. All sort of Christians have managed to kill each other (and others) for centuries, on the basis of some sort exclusivity. Compared to that, the Qu’ranic text verges on the ecumenical:

2,135: They say: “Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation).” Say thou: “Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah.”
2,136: Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).”
2,137: So if they believe as ye believe, they are indeed on the right path; but if they turn back, it is they who are in schism; but Allah will suffice thee as against them, and He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing.
2,138: (Our religion is) the Baptism of Allah: And who can baptize better than Allah? And it is He Whom we worship.
2,139: Say: Will ye dispute with us about Allah, seeing that He is our Lord and your Lord; that we are responsible for our doings and ye for yours; and that We are sincere (in our faith) in Him?
2,140: Or do ye say that Abraham, Isma’il Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know better than Allah? Ah! who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from Allah? but Allah is not unmindful of what ye do!

To anybody talking about Islam as “intrinsically fascist” I can then only answer that as far as I am concerned they can write that on the surface of the Moon, but all they’ll show is ignorance (and unwillingness to learn).

Written by omnologos

2008/Mar/29 at 21:50:52

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  1. well said!

    Saif

    2008/Mar/29 at 22:24:08

  2. The Qur’an both talks nicely and harshly about Jews and Christians. For balanced view you should quote both.
    In the Armenian genocide it was (Armenian) Christians who suffered. Not all Muslim rulers tolerated Christians and Jews – you should study history more thoroughly.

    vivator

    2008/Mar/30 at 16:45:00

  3. Vivator

    We should try first to find anything nice about Muslims, in the Catholic teachings. And mark the pre- and post-Vatican II

    omnologos

    2008/Mar/30 at 19:26:48

  4. The other point, Vivator, is that it may be true that not all Muslims tolerated Jews or Christians, but it is equally true that very, very, very few Christians tolerated Jews or Muslims.

    Thinking of motes and beams, it should be imperative for us Christians (and Catholics!) to figure out what went wrong with our lot, how, and how we can make sure it does not happen again under any circumstance

    omnologos

    2008/Mar/30 at 19:36:10

  5. Post Vatican talks nicely about Mulsim that scandalizes some Protestants. The late Pope was the first Pope to visit mosque and as far as I know he did initiate dialogue with Muslims.
    You mentioned that very few Christians tolerated Jews and Muslims. Can you be more specific? Indeed there were times that Christians persecuted Jews and Muslims. You wrote as you are pretty sure they (Muslims)always suffered more than Christians. If you mentioned Crusades, remember that Palestine fell into Muslim hands in seventh century AD and the first Chrusade was launched in 12 century – why waited 500 years? I came from the country with the world’s largest Muslim population – I have many good Muslim friends.

    vivator

    2008/Mar/30 at 21:04:38

  6. reformislam

    2008/Apr/20 at 04:14:44

  7. The problem is that Fitna singles out Islam. Its critiques apply equally to Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism and many other faiths.

    libhomo

    2008/Apr/21 at 02:12:48


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